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balances to be a real counterweight to donald trump within the republican party, analysts point out the fate of others in the party who have tried to do that. many of them have turned and become his allies like some of his gop primary challengers, or they're leaving politics like senators bob corker and jeff flake. brian todd, cnn, washington. the death toll from california's deadliest wildfires keeps rising. >> there are more than 1,000 names on a list of missing persons. >> it was a raging inferno. it was 50 mile-per-hour winds and blizzard of embers. >> i couldn't breathe. i couldn't see. it was black and red, and i really thought that's how i was going to die. >> it hurt a lot to see that i had no house anymore. >> paradise, we'll always be paradise. when we rebuild it will be paradise again. the cia now concludes that crown prince mohammed bin salman personally ordered the killing
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of journalist jamal khashoggi. >> the assessment is that crown prince mohammed bin salman directed, ordered, this assassination. president trump announced today he's finally done writing out answers for the special counsel. >> president trump's legal team balking, taking issue with some of the questions. >> i write the answers, my lawyers don't write answers. >> this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. good saturday to you. top of the hour now. it is a staggering number now because more than 1,000 people are unaccounted for in the wildfires burning across northern california. officials know of 74 people who have been killed. that number is expected to rise today. >> and in a few minutes the president is departing for california. he's expected to put politics aside, touring the devastation with california's governor and
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governor-elect. both of whom, of course, are democrats. press secretary sarah sanders says the president wants to show support for the victims. >> i think this will probably be one of the harder days that we've had in the two years of this administration. and i think the biggest message and biggest takeaway will be the president saying we're here, and thankfully the president's got big shoulders, and i think he's going to go there to offer them up to people that need somebody to lean on. >> that was the message from sarah sanders last night. the president taking on his role of consoler-in-chief, she says. president trump spoke with fox news, however, here's what he said. >> i was watching the firemen the other day, and they were raking areas. they were raking areas where the fire was right over there, and they're raking trees, little trees like there -- not trees, little bushes. that you could see are totally dry.
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weeds. and they're raking them, they're on fire. that should have been all raked out. >> what about the argument it's climate change? it's drier, hotter, and that's contributing to it? >> maybe it contributes a little bit. the big problem we have is management. >> thousands in northern california face an uncertain future. >> cnn's kaylee hartung spoke with wildfire victims who they are determined that they're going to move forward, they just don't know how. >> reporter: the smoke from the camp fire lingers. and survivors on the ground face a bleak picture. this makeshift campground in a walmart parking slot near the remnants -- parking lot is near the remnants of paradise. there is nothing. these survivors are trying to catch their breath in the smoky air, looking for answers to the questions what's next. >> did it burn down or didn't it burn down? we don't know. it's hard to try to figure out your game plan when you don't know your game plan. >> reporter: anna goodnight and
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her husband william rushed out of their home. they were only able to grab medication and important documents. >> we saw everything burning down as we were leaving. that was scary enough. >> reporter: they have no idea if their home is still standing. they're just glad they made it out alive. >> i hope there is closure for the families that have lost family because we've been hearing so many horror stories. but i'm sure it's going to get worse before it gets better. >> we're living. there's a lot of people who didn't make it. >> reporter: chris cal survived andrew in florida. she and her family were planning to make paradise their new home. this was the start of your new life. putting a down payment on an apartment in merritt tiparadise. >> we was happy, excited. they had called and told us to come next week. supposed to be the time we were coming.
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everything is gone, and i don't know the next step. i'm winging it. >> reporter: despite her long road to the recovery, crystal has been offering to help the people at the camp however she can. >> i can't do anything but one day at a time. it's out of my hands. stay praying. stay asking the lord to cover us. make sure they have a soft place to land in all situations. >> reporter: authorities say it is difficult to pinpoint the exact number of those displaced. paradise is a town with a population of more than 25,000 people. authorities say that some people could have evacuated to areas where cell phone service is unreliable. others could have evacuated and not reached out to family members. so some may not know that people are looking for them. anna goodnight, who you heard speak, said she's afraid to look at the list because she's afraid she'll see names she knows. authorities ask if you look t list, if you see someone's name on it who is safe, please let
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them know. wise other -- otherwise, they will continue to try to account for everyone. >> thank you very much. and new we have more from chico, california. paul, talk about where you are and what you're seeing. >> reporter: i'm at that makeshift camp that was alluded to outside the walmart parking lot in chico. you can see what seems to be hundreds of tents ringing the walmart parking lot on a chilly night in chico. we've been talking about the list of unaccounted for. the sheriff coroner put a finer point on that saying that doesn't necessarily mean all the people are missing and presumed dead. he wanted journalists to help give it context. how could one get on the list? this could result from an akwan turns calling early -- acquaintance calling early and
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saying i think so and so is missing, an e-mail, a dispatch. one thing that was heartbreaking and could get someone off the list, officials are asking for officials to provide dna samples to match with remains. >> at this point we're working full speed with the coroner to identify remains. our need now is for parents and children of missing -- too that have missing family to go -- that have missing family, i'm sorry, to the family assistance center at the old sears building at chico mall between 9:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. to have a dna swab collected for comparison purposes. >> reporter: they will be back out there again in paradise trying to recover more human remains. >> and paul, tell us more about the fire-fight today and -- you know, how the weather potentially could help and the resources that are coming in. >> reporter: huge factor in all of that. just was speaking to
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representatives from cal fire. here's the strategy -- they say the main active flame is burning east of oroville, california, they have to have cooperation from the air. this air has been so hazardous it looks ominous and dark in midday. when you have poor visibility, you can't fly both the fixed wing aircraft which dropped that purple fire retardant or the helicopter which can douse flames, so there's some, i believe, 5,400 firefighters on the line for them to get help today. they're going to have to clear the air. you may have heard that there are sporting events being cleared throughout northern california, there's a situation in sacramento where they have what they call the causeway classic. to be between sacramento state and u.c. davis. they moved that to reno. just horrific here. they hope it clears. back to you. >> paul, thank you very much. >> thanks, palm. take a look, too, if you will, please, look at your screen. these are before and after
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images of what merritt dice used to be. you saw the house there. we'll pull it up again. there's the house. now a couple of trees in the front yard. that was somebody's home. >> and take a look at this church. one of the many churches in paradise. and now stone walls and a chime me to all that's left -- chimney is all that's left there. to this do-it-yourself car wash. and now what's left after the fire. cal fire posted pictures of the destruction. we matched them up with google's street view images. as we saw, not just the hundreds of tents where people will have to rebuild their homes. businesses will have to be rebuilt, too. sources of income and the people there in northern california will need and southern california will need a lot of work, a lot of help over the next months and years. >> and they say they're dedicated to it because they are determined to rebuild. i want to get back quickly to the quest to cross people off
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the missing persons list. we want you to have every resource available you to. the american red cross is asking evacuees to visit safeandwell.org and register on their list. their people can checks for loved ones for you and let other people know that they are safe. so for other ways that you can help, as well, those affected by the california wildfires, go to cnn.com/impact. thank you for doing so. >> absolutely. coming up, we've got new developments in the murder case of journalist jamal khashoggi that implicates the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman. it was supposed to be a way for adults to quit smoking. e-cigarettes leaving more kids, however, to pick up the habit. the fda is proposing new regulations to stop the rise in teen smokers. and the family of that 26-year-old security guard who was shot and killed outside a suburban chicago nightclub is suing. they want answers.
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are responsible for that murder. >> cnn senior international correspondent ben wedeman is in beirut following this story. ben, hello to you. it appears that a phone call was a crucial part of the evidence that led the cia to this conclusion. >> reporter: yeah, victor, there's a lot of evidence that led the cia to that conclusion. but one of them was a telephone intercept of a conversation between the saudi ambassador to washington who happens to be the brother of crown prince mohammed bin salman with jamal khashoggi in which he tells him to go to the saudi consulate in istanbul to obtain a paper that would allow him to remarry. according to this report, that phone call was made at the -- with the prompting of the crown prince himself. in addition to that phone call which was intercepted by u.s. intelligence, the turks weren't involved in that, it's also based upon other information
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like the audio that was provided by the turkish -- by turkish intelligence to gina haspel, director of the cia, who went to turkey last month. that audio apparently documents the torture, member, and dismemberment of jamal khashoggi. so really it's a variety of pieces of information and intelligence that amount to circumstantial evidence which indicates that the crown prince himself was directly involved in the decision to kill this "washington post" columnist. victor? >> all righty. we appreciate it. thank you. last week, about ten days ago, the president said that he would have a stronger opinion about saudi arabia's role in jamal khashoggi's death. watch this. >> do you think saudi arabia is we g guilty of having him murdered -- >> i'll have a much stronger pop that subject over the next week. >> over the next week was this
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week. and this week is over today. we've not heard anything from the president since. joining me to discuss, cnn contributor and former director of the office of government ethics, walter schwab. welcome back to the show. >> good morning. >> let's talk about it in this context. and potentially the conflict of american interests. the president says that he's interested in preserving the economic interest. this arms deal that he's talked about for several weeks now. also, the national security interest and saudi arabia's cooperation with his focus on iran. but there's also the interest of the freedom of the press. and there will be a consequence for killing a journalist working in america because you don't like his opinion. is this a simple choice? >> well, i think it is a simple choice. obviously it's a costly choice, but it's a simple one. we have a virginia permanent resident who was murdered now we know by the crown prince of saudi arabia. horrifically. this is an individual who wrote
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for a major united states paper. one of our top news sources in the country. we have a national security interest, and sending a message to the auto kraatz of the world -- autocrats of the world that you can't without impunity dill -- impunity kill a member of the united states. it will embolden people around the world putting americans in danger. what's next, an american citizen abroad or the fugitive from turkey who lives in pennsylvania, that the turks have been trying to get their hands on? do we turn him over, do they come and get him? so i think what we have in the situation is a real risk to national security if we don't act. >> yeah. let me add one more interest here that you've raised the flag on. the president's personal financial interests which we don't know much about in saudi
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arabia. >> yes. that's absolutely right. i mean, the financial disclosure forms that the president files do not reveal the lenders or business partners or side deals or customers of his businesses. and as a result, we know very little about his financial motivations. what little we do know is that the saudis are spending a lot of money at his hotels. we know that a construction company partly owned by the saudis has signed a preliminary deal to construct a trump property overseas. and the man has done business with them for 20 years and spoken highly of his business relations with him. another concerning conflict link is this -- there were rumors that jared kushner may have leaked information that led the crown prince to round up his rivals. and it was rumored that or reported, rather, that the crown prince had said he has jared kushner in his pongt. he deny -- pocket. he denied that but he also denied killing khashoggi. right now jared kushner, who has
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a security clearance, has to be concerned that if they take a strong action against saudi arabia, perhaps the crown prince's denial that he had been working with kushner to gather that information could change. and so -- >> yeah. >> this white house is in a difficult spot. >> the saudi story has changed several times in the last month and a half or so. let me read this twice from ben rhodes. this was president obama's former deputy national security adviser in which he tweeted, it's not just a question of what they do now. it's whether they've been lying for weeks to cover for mohammed bin salman. for the cia to have the high con i did dense assessment now -- confidence assessment now they likely had evidence against mbs for a while. yet trump/pompeo stood by mbs. why? should there be an investigation in the subsequent tweet? >> i think so. it's implausible that the president or the secretary of state were unaware of the cia assessment over the past several weeks which raises a question of
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the whether we've been lied to by the white house. raising further questions about what conflicts of interest might have been motivating those possible lies. i think that if the current congress won't look into it, i'm looking forward to the house in january, maybe under elijah cummings in the house oversight committee, to really dig in on this and demand some answers from the white house for us since we don't seem to be able to get them voluntarily from the white house. >> all right. let's see if we'll get that stronger opinion from the president next week. walter schwab, thank you very much. >> thanks. up next, president trump says he's now finished answering robert mueller's questions on the russia probe. and he says he did it by himself. the lawyers looked over him, but he answered the questions himself he says. every tv doctor knows
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president trump says he's finished answering questions regarding russian russian meddling. but the answers have not been submitted by special counsel robert mueller just jet. >> i write the answers. my lawyers don't write answers. i write answers. i was asked a series of questions. i answered them very easily. very easily. i'm sure they're tricked up because they like to catch people -- gee, was the weather sunny or rainy? he said it may have been a good day. it was rainy. therefore, he told a lie. he perjured himself. okay. so you know, i have to -- you have to be careful when you answer questions with people who
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probably have bad intentions. but no, it's -- the questions were very routinely answered by me. >> the president huddled with his legal team the past three days. they were not happy with some of the questions covering the president following the 2016 election. they believe it could be off limits. analyst and senior correspondent for bloomberg news with us, as well as cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. good to have you both here. margaret, i wanted to ask you, why have they not been submitted yet? >> well, the lawyers and the president have spent a considerable amount of time and effort trying to figure out both how to answer questions and which questions to answer. the broad expectation is it will be next week before the questions are submitted.
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we which them to fall in the area of collusion. not really a legal term of art, but we know in general what that's getting to. the president and his legal team have indicated that they had no intention of answering even in writing these other questions about the areas, the broader issue of obstruction. so we expect that a lot of what's taking so long is just going over and over the details in case to make sure that the president's responses are going to be consistent and hold up. >> so xan, you heard the president there saying he crafted these questions himself. he wrote them himself. surely, you're laughing, surely a legal team is not going to just give him carte blanche to do this. >> absolutely. that's completely the opposite i'm sure of what happened. judging from the president's tweeting style, if i was his lawyer, i would never let him
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put pen to paper. in fact, i think probably the legal team has written every single word of those answers and probably a lot of the time was spent forcesing the president -- forcing the president to digest the words and get his buy-in to it. ultimately he has to adult whatever the language the lawyers come up with. as was pointed out, a lot of issues regarding what's off limits and what is not off limits, this is really just the opening salvo. once they put those forward, mueller's team may have objections to what they're saying are off limits. they could accept them. there could be further litigation. but the idea that he has written this all himself is completely silly. >> margaret, the president tweeted on thursday the inner workings of the mueller investigation are a total mess. how would he know what the inner workings of the investigation are? surely some of the questions he answered might give some insight? >> well, and his lawyers and mueller's team are in contact as
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are the lawyers in the white house. but you know, the president has to think not only about himself and not only about, you know, the people who advised his campaign, but there are several members of his inner circle and even his family including his son, don jr., who have been brought into this and have been sort of in theory, in the potential cross hairs of mr. mueller and his team for several months. so some of his frustrations and concerns may involve what the implications on his family are going to be. we've seen him in the public and twitter setting veering between saying everything's fine, i've, you know, i'm going to answer everything to being outraged at mr. mueller and even just in the last few days, the same sort of thing, everything will be fine. it's a total mess. so you know, there's -- the president's under a tremendous amount of pressure. and he's had the break of the campaign, those closing weeks of the campaign, the rallies, for
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several weeks. and mr. mueller and his team doing the traditional thing where you -- you put any sort of public notice of an investigation on hold. that's over now. and the -- we're in the closing weeks of the republican power in the how to, the takeover by the democrats. the president's teaming pressure, and this has come back into full force. >> there's been talk about james comey and he tweeted, he said, house republicans can ask me anything they want but i want the american people to watch. let's have a public hearing. truth is best served by transparen transparency. let me know when is convenient. shan, should the president release answers publicly in the art of transparency, and how likely is it that there would be a public hearing? >> i think it would be great if fee released them. i think his legal team is probably breaking out in sweats at your suggestion of that. and we might see him start tweeting out his answers.
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but i think transparency would be great if he were to put out his answers. he could say that no one can spin or try and mischaracterize him. it's the same technique, smart to say i want to testify publicly. then everyone can see what the answers were, and no one else can try and distort what actually happened. i think it would be great if he put them out publicly. i don't know that either the prosecution or his defense team would like that very much. but would be great for the american public. >> real quickly, wanted to bring up maria butena, the russian woman allegedly used the nra to infiltrate the u.s. on behalf of the government. her attorneys have been meeting with prosecutors to craft a potential plea deal. let's listen to senator ron widen, what he had to say about that. >> issue with the college student, she went and set up a shell company in south dakota. you don't have very many college students set up shell companies
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in south dakota with nra operatives for innocent purposes. >> margaret, how does maria butena fit into all of this? >> well, there's the legal question, and that will play out probably much more discreetly in the coming weeks. but i think as the senator's comments reflect, you're going to see a whole new sort of change of pace and process and focus on the hill starting in a little bit more than a month. particularly on the house side, but that's part of the reason why you see the renewed focus on mr. comey and ms. lynch and the closing weeks is -- republican leadership and the president's allies would like to be able to help turn the focus back to democrats or to former fbi officials. the democrats would like to be able to turn the focus toward not just the president but broadly his team, the 2016
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campaign, what happened in terms of connections with russians. we are not if on the legal trick, on the political track to see the figures from months older more than a year ago come back into play. >> we appreciate you both. thank you. >> thank you. the race to become governor, georgia's next governor appears to be over. democratic hopeful stacey abrams told supporters yesterday her republican opponent, brian kemp, will become the new governor. but she made it clear that she's not conceding. >> let's be clear. this is not a speech of concession because concession means to acknowledge an action is right, true, or proper. as a woman of conscience and faith, i cannot concede that. but my assessment is the law currently allows no further viable remedy. >> abrams announced plans for a major federal lawsuit against
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disturbing stat sdix about how teenagers may be use -- statistics about how teenagers may be using e-cigarettes. a study shows vaping among middle school students is up 48%. among high school students, up 78%. the food and drug administration says the increase of teens and preteens using e-cigarettes is so alarming that it's proposing new rules to rein in products aimed at those kids. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta takes a look at the problem and potential solutions. >> reporter: when the e-cigarettes came out, and it's a relatively new phenomenon, it wasn't clear how it would impact young people. the data trends this year has inspired a lot of new recommendations for the crackdown here. nearly 80% increase in use among high schoolers. nearly 50% in use among middle schoolers. those are pretty staggering
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numbers. all along it's been a balance, according to the fda and the commissioner. look, maybe these e-cigarettes have a role in helping people stop smoking, but if people, especially young people, start smoking as a result, that's a balance they don't want to tolerate. this is what he had to say -- >> we know that some proportion of kids who initiate to nicotine will start with e-cigarettes. all of the work getting smoking rates down among kids, there's a threat that that's going to be reversed if we don't do something about it. >> reporter: and something else to punctuate with this. 90% of people who become lifelong smokers start before the age of 18. 95% start before the age of 21. only 1% of people who are lifelong smokers start after the age of 26. it's ape vulnerable period for people. -- it's a vulnerable period for people. if you start smoking at this point, e-cigarettes and transition to real cigarettes, the likelihood of becoming a lifelong smoker it higher.
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i think -- smoker is higher. i think that's what the fda is trying to address. these are specific recommendations. they would to restrict the sales of flavored e-cigarettes in particular. they feel those are targeting kids. they want to ban menthol cigarettes and flavored cigars and want to prohibit mark marketing that targets teens. again, the big goal here is to still make the e-cigs available for people who are using them to help stop smoking. but to really restrict the availability to young people. christ christi? >> thank you. son does with us, he runs a tobacco high school program. what are you hearing from the high school, from the students? >> the things that we're hearing are the ease of accessibility. the students i work with have no problem accessing these products. they have no problem accessing these devices. and so anything that can be done
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to stop the ease of accessibility is helpful from our viewpoint and perspective. >> what is their attraction to this? >> when i was a kid, my dad would buy his cigarette in front of me at the smoke shop. they would have candied cigarettes. a lot of these devices are the new version of that. they're adding flavors to the devices, and they're lowering the threat threshold at the same time by making them seem safer than the most dangerous consumer product invented by humankind. kids are assuming that they're safe, and they're not. >> this is what's interesting think i know there's a colorado quit line. the eligibility age to try to get off of that is 15. they're calling the explosion of teen vaping catastrophic, and they're dropping that age level to 12. >> correct. >> is that -- too do you see that that's -- do you see that that's very necessary?
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>> absolutely. in the trainings that i attend as a facilitator in tobacco and marijuana education, the largest group that was at my last training were middle school counselors and teachers. in the group that i'm currently working with, almost every single student i'm working with started before the age of 14. >> do any of the proposals that we heard from sanjay there, changing the way that these are marketed, taking some of them off the market, will that be a deterrent? >> absolutely. we need a two-pronged approach. we need to reduce the availability and accessibility, and these regulations will help. in addition to that, we need to also replace the funding that's being lost in education and prevention because much of the funding is based on the tobacco tax on traditional cigarettes. as usage drops, our funding is dropping. at the same time we're trying to fight the devices. >> thank you for the work you do. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you very much. >> absolutely. take good care.
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live pictures here. the president spoke from the south lawn of the white house moments ago. >> two stops. we're go thing to two areas you know very well and it's a shame. it seems many more people are missing than anyone thought even possible. and i want to be with the firefighters and the fema and first responders. we'll be coming back here probably landing at 4:00 in the morning or something like that. but we want to spend a lot of time. we want to discuss many things. i'm meeting with the governor and the new governor and governor elect. so we have a lot of things to talk about. we will be talking about forest management.
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i've been saying that for a long time. this could have been a lot different situation. but one thing is that everybody now knows this is what we have to be doing. should have been done many years ago but i think everybody is on the right side. very expensive issue but very inebs expensive when you compare it to even one of these horrible fires and will save a lot of lives in addition to lot of money. we'll be talking to governors and the first responders and fema. the firefighters have been unbelievably brave. some of the stories i read last night. unbelievably brave. well, we haven't been briefed yet. the cia is going to be espeaking to me today. we have not been briefed yet. as of this moment, we were told
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that he did not play a role. we're going to have to find out what they have to say. go ahead? >> have you submitted your questions to the special counsel? >> no, we do that next week. they're all done. well, we're taking a look at it. we also have a great ally in saudi arabia. they give us a lot of jobs, economic development. they are -- they have been a truly spectacularer ally in terms of jobs and economic development and i also take -- i'm president. i have to take a lot of thinginize to consideration. so we will be talking to the cia later and lots of others. i'll be doing that while i'm on the plane and speaking with secretary of state, mike pompeo. we have not been talking.
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we have not been talking about it. we'll see. no, it's not under consideration. we are looking, always looking and whatever we can do for turkey and frankly countries we get along with very with well, we're having a good moment with turkey. as you know he gave pastor brunson back last week and we appreciate that. we are doing very well with turkey. i get along very well with the president. he's a friend of mine. he's a strong man, a tough man and a smart man but he's a friend of mine. so whatever we can do, we'll do but that is something that we're always looking at. but at this point, no. what? we haven't even talked about it.
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yeah, we have a tremendous military force on the southern border. we have large numbers of people trying to get into our country. i must say the reason it's increased so much is we're doing so well as opposed to the rest of the world. and south of our border isn't doing so well. we have millions of people online to get into our country legally and they have preference. they have to have preference. they've been waiting for a long time. so we have a lot of things happening but we have a great military force on the southern border. we're not letting people into our country illegally and we're not doing a release. we'll do a catch but we're not doing releases. so if they think they're go eteeng be released into our country efor years. we're not releasing. they don't get released.
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as long as necessary. they built a very powerful fence, a different kind of a fence. the fence is fully manned. >> [ inaudible ]. >> it's very interesting. they're talking about all their problems with their country but they're all waving their country's flag. what is that all about? if they have such fear and problems and they hate their country shs why do we see all the flags being waved for guatemala frrks honduras, el salvador? why are they waving flags? this has nothing to do with asylum. thises to the do with getting into our country illegally and we have to know who wants to come into our country.
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>> vice president mike pence been questioning his loyalty? >> no, i don't question his loyalty at all. he's 100% loyal. i doubt they had any sources. a typical new york times phoney story. mike pence is 100%. not even a doubt about it in my miepd. he's been a trooper. he's been with me as soon as i won the primary and i could not be happier and i don't question his loyalty lat. he's already been tested. mike pence is a terrific person. that was a phoney story written by the new york times who, by the way, never called me for a comment. see it's fake news and that's what breaks opcountry. how do you do a story like that and you don't call the principal? i would give them a quote. i would say it's not true and that's the end of their story but they don't do that. they write and makeup sources.
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they makeup phoney sources. like you write a novel. have you ever written a novel? that's the way a lot off that news stories are written. it's fake and it's a very bad thing for our country. it's very dangerous. mike pence is 100%. they should retract that story. but you can't do that story without calling eflee a quote or you could call sarah huckabee and say could i get a quote and here she is. could i get a quote from the president? i would be happy to give a quote. i would be happy and you know what the quote would be? mike pence is 100%. now you can't do your story. so that's why they don't like calling me for a quote. >> i would help nancy pelosi if she would need some votes. i would perform a wonderful service for her. i like her. can you believe it?
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i like nancy pelosi. she's tough and she's smart and she edeserves to be speaker and they're playing games with her. the president of your country is doing a great job but he's being harassed. presidential harassment. in a way her own party's harassing her. there's nobody else should be speaker. that doesn't mean 100 years but certainly they should start out with nancy pelosi to be espeaker. if she needs any votes, i will give her the votes to put her over the top. i saw tom reed as an example, a fine man. a congressman. i would call him a moderate. i'm not saying i'd get them from the super conservative side. but if it's 50 or two or 1 she's got them from me automatic.
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so tell the opposition they're wasting their time. we're talking about the boarder wall. we're talking about equite a big sum of money. $5 billion and i think if i was ever going to do a shut down over boarder security, when you look that caravan, when you look at the mess and the people coming un, this would be a very good time to do a shut down. i don't think it's going to be necessary because i think the democrats will come to their senses and if they don't, we'll continue to win our elections. we won the senate. you do recognize. that means all the judges approved will be easier because we -- which is historic. we picked up two seats in the senate. went from 51-49 to 53-47 and
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these are senators i really like. that's also a difference. thank you. i have close to made a decision on un ambassador or attorney general, no. but until that decision is made, we have a great gentleman in matt whitaker and everybody tells me he's doing a fantastic job. i consider pam bondy for anything but right now i know her very well. in the meantime she's got a very good job. she's doing a very good job. but in some form i'd love to have her in the administration. but we have great people. we have tremendous people. our cabinet. i'm very happy. now will i make adjustment? yes. you take a look at what we're dining with with the military. very happy with

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